[?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

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ciwa
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[?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:23 am

hi,
i have a problem, i need to download controlnet configuration using rsnetwork for controlnet to slc 1747-SCNR thru cpu slc 5/05 using serial or ethnet, is it possible? or i must use controlnet adapter to download it.

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:49 am

ciwa wrote:hi,
i have a problem, i need to download controlnet configuration using rsnetwork for controlnet to slc 1747-SCNR thru cpu slc 5/05 using serial or ethnet, is it possible? or i must use controlnet adapter to download it.
Of course it is possible. At first of all you must be sure for RSLinx connect is established.

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:30 pm

hi,
in rslink its shown only slc cpu, when i click + sign there are no other module, what should i do? i use rslink v2.6 with gateway license.

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:11 pm

Are you installed the EDS-files for communicate modules? Check it.

Are your SLC system running correctly now, or you was replaced same communicate module? Or you creating the new system?
Do you can see the single local adapter in SLC rack then ControlNet disconnected?

1) If you was take the "fresh" module, it need to flashing for latest version RSLinx.
Rule: THE FRESH MUST BE TO FLASH
Did you to do it?
Then same version firmware in all net adapters it's right.

2) Are you sure that the adapters has a different node address?
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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:31 am

Thanks Rhzhij, i will try..

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:14 am

hi,
i already instal the update eds file, which match with my controlnet devices and reconfigure the controlnet network with match version, but the scanner still not appear even in the rsnetworx or rslinx, its only show the cpu so i can't download the configuration.
i am creating the new system, using controlnet scanner and flex remote i/o. i didn't flash the scanner, what software to flash?
the node address each adapter is ok.
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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:33 am

ciwa wrote:hi,
...i didn't flash the scanner, what software to flash?
It's ControlFLASH from Flash Programming Tools groop

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:22 pm

hi,
i use rslogix500 there is no control flash, as far as i know, the control flash only available is rslogix5000.

regards,

ciwa

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:11 pm

OK! You right, your need a "special" soft...
...but this soft also called ControlFlash ;)

Look to this
http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.co ... _-en-p.pdf on p.2
You can download current versions of the software from the
Rockwell Automation Software Updates web page:
http://support.automation.rockwell.com/webupdates/.
If your version of RSNetWorx software does not recognize a newer
1747-SCNR scanner, you may need to update the electronic data sheet
(EDS) file for the scanner. To update the EDS file, do one of the
following:
• Use the RSNetWorx for ControlNet Register Device feature to
perform an online update.
• Download the EDS file from
http://www.ab.com/networks/eds.
Use either the RSNetWorx for ControlNet EDS Wizard or the
EDS hardware-installation tool.
• Contact Rockwell Automation Technical Support.
Look also to this
http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/in ... 28493.html
http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/in ... -1228.html
http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.co ... _-en-p.pdf
http://www.dee.ufrj.br/controle_automat ... suario.pdf

Good lake!

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:28 am

Hi Ryzhij,
thanks for your advise..
I ask rockwell support, they told me, you can't download controlnet configuration thru CPU in SLC 500 System except Controllogix system, because the SLC backplane is I/O scan method and Control Logix backplane is communication method. So, you must download the controlnet configuration direct to the 1747-SCNR using 1784-U2CN (USB to ControlNet) it using NAP.
Now, i can download the configuration with this interface, now the problem is node 2 always missing and node 3 sometimes match but suddenly missing.
is this the cable problem??

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Re: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:55 am

I think, if you have capability firmware into all your nodes, probably problem in cable, connectors or end-terminators.
Are the net was assembled completely then you NetWorx apply?

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:53 am

Hi,
the problem was found in the terminator.
I can read all digital input from flex i/o now but why i can't write digital output to the flex i/o?
is this wrong scanlist configuration??
the system configuration was :

node device
01 1747-SCNR
02 1794-ACN15 with 5 module DI 32point and 3 module DO 32point
03 1794-ACN15 with 4 module DI 32point and 3 module DO 32point

can you tell me the correct scanlist configuration for above system?

Regards,

CiwA

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:01 am

Hi,
the problem was found in the terminator.
I can read all digital input from flex i/o now but why i can't write digital output to the flex i/o?
is this wrong scanlist configuration??
the system configuration was :

node device
01 1747-SCNR
02 1794-ACN15 with 5 module DI 32point and 3 module DO 32point
03 1794-ACN15 with 4 module DI 32point and 3 module DO 32point

The status from scanlist configuration when online mode is :
Node 02 : [Slot00]YYYYY YYY[Slot07]
Node 03 : [Slot00]YYYYY YY[Slot06]

can you tell me the correct scanlist configuration for above system?

Regards,

CiwA

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by Ryzhij » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:34 am

Did you update EDS-files for ALL your modules (including I/O) before starting NetWorx?
:roll: Scan-list must was creating automatically

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by ciwa » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:28 am

hi,
all eds already updated.
if i use auto insert in the scanlist, only read 16 bit each DI module, DO module still can't write.
please advise...

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by dang tuan » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:33 am

ciwa wrote:hi,
i have a problem, i need to download controlnet configuration using rsnetwork for controlnet to slc 1747-SCNR thru cpu slc 5/05 using serial or ethnet, is it possible? or i must use controlnet adapter to download it.
Hi any body,

It is possible configuration 1747-SCNR devicenet thru cpu slc 500 using serial. I do not how to download, but i am sure they use only RS232 cable to configure devicenet or controlnet. Now i can not ask them.

any body known?

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by cuongvcs » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:13 pm

Hi all
Hi any body,
dang tuan wrote:
It is possible configuration 1747-SCNR devicenet thru cpu slc 500 using serial. I do not how to download, but i am sure they use only RS232 cable to configure devicenet or controlnet. Now i can not ask them.

any body known?

I used RSNetwork for DeviceNet configure 1747-SDN and download via PCMK .you can used RSNetwork for ControlNet configure 1747-SCRN
I do not used RS232 cable .
according to their different PLC that can be used RS232, DH485 ,DH+,Ethernet to configure.
good luck.

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by dang tuan » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:10 am

Hi,
Thanks cuongvcs for answer, but i don't understand ( PCMK ? )
Before i seem a technical configure DeviceNet 1747-SDN and download via RS232 of slc 500, DeviceNet sofware can online via RS232 of slc 500 but I don't how to.Because i haven't DeviceNet adapter ( 1770-KFC ....)
You can tell me details ?

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by cuongvcs » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:22 pm

Hi dang tuan.
PCMK is communication card of AB uesd for Laptop. connect with PLC and SLC via DH+ or DH485.
I used PCMK download configure DeviceNet to 1747-SDN and used RSNetwork for DeviceNet online via 1770-KFC.Run ok.
you use any type of SLC that?

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by dang tuan » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:57 am

Hi,
I have two ways connect to CPU.
1. RS232 direct to slc500
2. Use adapter 1747-PIC/AIC+ ( of AB ) to connect DH485 port CPU.

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by cuongvcs » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:48 pm

Good job.
also used in their place 1747-PIC/AIC but 6 year ago. Now only used PCMK for laptop and DH+,DH485 for Desktop.
Best Regards.

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by dehell » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:16 pm

Hi,
Just to say : it is possible to connect to a DeviceNet Network using the backplane of the SLC.
Follow this link

http://rapidshare.com/files/399412809/S ... r.pdf.html
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/399712584/S ... driver.pdf
Size: 232 KB

Best regard

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Re: [?]: how to download controlnet configuration?

Post by cuongvcs » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:48 am

dehell wrote
Hi,
Just to say : it is possible to connect to a DeviceNet Network using the backplane of the SLC.
Follow this link

http://rapidshare.com/files/399412809/S ... r.pdf.html
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/399712584/S ... driver.pdf
Size: 232 KB

Best regard
thank Dehell .This document is userful.

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