[?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

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[?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:57 pm

Hello !

A simple program of start - stop motor is to be simulated between step7 + S7-PLCSIM + WinCC Flex 2005.

Could anyone please give a simple procedure of how to configure these 3 applications (already installed on one laptop) and see the visuals on WinCC Flex screen (like say a conveyor is running when you press "START" and it stops upon pressing "STOP" pushbutton)

I apologize for raising such a basic query .... but I'm totally "illeterate" on WinCC.

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Re: simulation between s7plcsim + s7+wincc flex 2005

Post by dsekulic » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:24 pm

Hi,
First You have to adjust PG/PC interface (Start -> All Programs -> Simatic -> Step7 -> Setting PG/PC Interface or ftom Step7 under Options -> Set PG/PC Interface).
There You should adjust appropriate interface.
In Your case some of PLCSIM interfaces depending on type of communication between WinCC Flex and PLC.
Start PLCSIM from Step7. In PLCSIM adjust interface in popup menu (PLCSIM(TCP/IP), PLCSIM(MPI)..).
Download PLC program (in program blocks CTRL+A -> PLC -> Download). In WinCC Flex in Communication -> Connections You should adjust HMI and PLC interface (it is good idea to integrate Your WinCC Flex project in Step7). Now You can start WinCC Flex runtime (Project -> Compiler -> Start Runtime).
Now simulatin should work.
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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:58 am

Hello !
My PG/PC interface is set to PLCSIM(MPI) as I confirmed it from Simatic Manager.
The HMI I'm using in WinCC Flex is OP73.
I downloaded the project to S7-PLCSIM and everything gets simulated successfully ok.
But when I try to start runtime simulator from WinCC Flex , it says something like ......
"Runtime simulator is not available for this device".
Any suggessions?

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by Info » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:52 am

Why can't you simulate the Runtime for an OP73/OP73micro/TP177A/ TP177micro or OP77A in WinCC flexible on a PC?
http://support.automation.siemens.com/W ... n/21897530
FAQ wrote:The Runtime simulation of an OP73 / OP73micro / TP177A / TP177micro or OP77A is not provided for in WinCC flexible 2004 nor in WinCC flexible 2005 SP1, so the corresponding selection options are grayed out and cannot be executed.
Operator panels without Runtime simulator → HMI device with Runtime simulator
OP73, OP73micro, OP77A → OP77B
TP177micro, TP177A → TP170A or TP177B

As of WinCC flexible 2007 it is now also possible to use the Runtime simulation of OP73 / OP73micro / TP177A / TP177micro or OP77A
Upgrade your Flex to 2008

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:50 pm

Hi !
Many thanks for the info/link.
I will install a "comparable"' device OP77B and then try again.
Actually, I made a very simple program of a motor start-stop (only one FC !) and tested on S7-PLCSIM. It works.
But I was hoping to see some kind of "animation" on the WinCC Flex screen ........ something like a motor or a conveyor is running when you press a start button and it stops when you press stop button. Do I need any kind of codes to be written in WinCC Flex or the integration with step 7 is sufficient? (I'm sorry ... I know it sounds like a complete zero on my part ... I'm planning to read the pdf files very soon ..... but may I have your advice on this?)

@ Info : "Upgrade your Flex to 2008"

From where ............ Any source?
(I downloaded total 43 parts of zipped files for WinCC 2008 ... But when I try to unpack each file says ""CRC error ,file is corrupted" !!!!!!!!!!)

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by CoMod » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:08 pm

nashama wrote:@ Info : "Upgrade your Flex to 2008"
From where ............ Any source?
http://www.plcforum.uz.ua/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=8650
WinCC Flexible 2008 with SP2
Full DVD 3.6 GB ISO image
nashama wrote:I downloaded total 43 parts of zipped files for WinCC 2008 ...
But when I try to unpack each file says ""CRC error ,file is corrupted" !!!!!!!!!!
Check parts with WinRar > Test button
and redownload broken parts

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:01 pm

Dear CoMod,
Thank you very much for the quick response and the setup file for Winrar !
Rapidshare puts me on hold for 5 min and then says something like "server connection not reachable or switch to premium account".
I tried with narod.ru, It is asking for, probably, an activex or some permission to allow one application to come into your PC. Is that safe?

Also, please advise on the first half of my last post.
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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by CoMod » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:41 pm

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:22 am

Dear CoMod,

As you siad : " http://www.plcforum.uz.ua/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=8650
WinCC Flexible 2008 with SP2
Full DVD 3.6 GB ISO image "

After I unpacked all the 12 zipped files , it created a new folder "Winccflex 2008" of just 2.40GB (not 3.6GB as you said).

May I know if Anything wrong in my downloading?

Please advise.

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by CoMod » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:04 am

nashama wrote:Dear CoMod,

As you siad : " http://www.plcforum.uz.ua/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=8650
WinCC Flexible 2008 with SP2
Full DVD 3.6 GB ISO image "

After I unpacked all the 12 zipped files , it created a new folder "Winccflex 2008" of just 2.40GB (not 3.6GB as you said).

May I know if Anything wrong in my downloading?
:anon: Read post from top to bottom
Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:46 pm wrote: WinCC Flexible 2008 with SP2
Full DVD 3.6 GB ISO image
Image Torrent link http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#35797163

33*100.000.000 + 81.616.563 bytes
WinCC_Flexible_2008_SP2_Full.part01.rar
....
WinCC_Flexible_2008_SP2_Full.part34.rar

or other version of archive
27*144 MB +
PassWord for unpack: flex2008SP2

WinCC_flex_2008_SP2.part01.rar
....
WinCC_flex_2008_SP2.part28.rar
but you can install already downloaded WinCC Flexible 2008
and

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:07 am

Dear CoMod,

You mean I can install SP2 without installing SP1?

And , the link you gave me talks about HF3 , HF2 and HF1.

Can I install HF3 without installing HF2 and HF1 ?

Please confirm.

Many thanks for positive co-operation.

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by CoMod » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:35 am

WinCC Flexible 2008 SP2 from Rapidshare/Narod/Torrents = full version of WinCC Flexible 2008 with SP2
SP2 for WinCC Flexible 2008 from Siemens site = only SP2 for previous versions of WinCC Flexible 2008
Last SPN include all previous versions of SP (1,...N-1)
Last HotFix N include all previous versions of HotFix (1,...N-1)
use HotFix 13 for WinCC flexible 2008 SP2
http://support.automation.siemens.com/W ... n/43412059

===== Download Variants ============
1. WinCC Flexible 2008 from Rapidshare/Narod/Torrents + SP2 for WinCC Flexible 2008 from Siemens site + HotFix 13 for WinCC flexible 2008 SP2 from Siemens site
or
2. WinCC Flexible 2008 SP2 from Rapidshare/Narod/Torrents + HotFix 13 for WinCC flexible 2008 SP2 from Siemens site

For Windows 7 only second Variant possible.

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:40 am

I have Windows XP SP3.
I got Wincc flex 2008 from narod.ru (not rapidshare !!)
SP2 from Siemens website and HF13 also from Siemens website !
Please advise.

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Re: [?]: simulation between s7plcsim + step7+wincc flex 2005

Post by nashama » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:48 pm

So, the way I downloaded will not sit on Windows XP SP3?
According to the above download variants, I guess I made a mistake in the order of the downloading.
Please advise.
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